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ataudte



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Historical Graph like MRTG, Munin & Co. Reply with quote

Hello everybody,

long time no see.

The HM in the data center works great, but I'm missing one feature. We need a possibility to look at the past. You know, what I mean?

Tools like MRTG/RRDtool, Munin, Cacti and so on provide graphs of different stats of machines and interfaces and they compress the infos for further views.

The HM has the Log Analyser, but I can't create an overview about all Internet interfaces or about all fill levels of a server.

Is it possible to build something like that into the HM, that looks and feels like MRTG? I don't want to check the same states by 2 systems. We already got one monitoring system and don't need a second one.

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ataudte
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, you should take a look at Log Visualizer: http://www.ks-soft.net/hostmon.eng/lv/index.htm

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Max
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ataudte



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Max,

and thank you for your rapid answer.

The LogVisualizer could solve my Problem, but the handling of the output leaves much to be desired. I could run a batch file for some tests and would get a lot of *.gif files. Is there any approach for a Web-Frontend like the MRTG uses to display the graphs? I want to run the Monitoring and the Historicisation in one system. It would be fine, if I could see the history graph of some tests in a Browser Window.

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ataudte
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Log Analyzer can create HTML reports.
Examples:
http://www.ks-soft.net/hostmon.eng/la/examples/template.htm
http://www.ks-soft.net/hostmon.eng/la/examples/HTTPtests_charts.htm
You may publish these reports on your web server or use our Web Service to provide HTTP access to these charts.

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Alex
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ataudte



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Alex, hello Max,

I know the functionality of the Log Analyzer und the Log Visualizer. Both of them don't provide, what I need. But I found 2 possible solutions:

1) Log Analyzer:
The Log Analyzer generates HTML reports for all tests I defined. I can choose tests by their state or test method, but I can't say "take this one". I could log the tests I want to be visualized in another data source using the "Log & Report" option in the test properties. If the Log Analyzer processes the additional log source I will get the HTML report for the selected tests.

2) Log Visualizer:
The Log Visualizer works with the test ID, thus I don't need to log selected tests in another file. I could run a batch file which uses a text file of all wanted tests as a parameter and will get a lot of gif pictures. I just have to implement a frontend for a pretty presentation of the results.

I think one of this solutions will be my aspiration of a browser page like the MRTG got.

Any other ideas?

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ataudte
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KS-Soft



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right, both solutions are not perfect, especially when you need to generate charts for web interface using specific test item.
We plan to implement some new options in version 8.nn (may be 8.50) but so far these 2 applications is what we have.

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ataudte



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Morning Alex (...it's almost 8.30am here ),

If you also have no other idea, I will look for some other tools and if the effort of setting-up is already the same like implementing a frontend for the HM, I will do that.

You will find my results in the ''Library''-Forum

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ataudte
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking that it should be fairly straight forward to integrate HM test results with RRDTool/MRTG. I've worked with MRTG and SNMP quite a bit but not with RRDTool. Just now going through tutorials for this.

I've recently had a request that essentially involves deriving at set of time series data from HM test results and then providing real time graphing for these results for marketing and development teams.

I'd be very surprised if this was not already being done by several HM users. I've not seen a lot of posts on this topic but I'd prefer not to re-invent the wheel.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are implementing some new options for HostMonitor 8.20. I hope you will like it

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KS-Soft wrote:
We are implementing some new options for HostMonitor 8.20. I hope you will like it


Can you give us a little hint?

I've got a project that will involve writing HM output to an RRDTool database for graphing by MRTG of HM test results. This project could be delayed a bit if something in 8.20 will either help me accomplish that task or provide a viable alternative.

Any ETA for 8.20??? Thx!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For example HostMonitor, RCC (and later Web Service) will be able to chow charts like these



Also HostMonitor will be generate some new reports...

Quote:
Any ETA for 8.20??? Thx!

End of August, I think

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Alex
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timn



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great, Alex!

Do you have any idea when graphs will be avaiable in HTML reports?

Thx!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

End of August, I think
(the same version)

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greyhat64



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex,
This is a great development! Like others, this is going to save me so much time/effort. I can't wait to see 8.2 in the coming weeks.
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bbackx



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea when 8.20 will be released?
We're about to deploy a new HostMonitor setup, so it would be nice to have the latest version.
Would be a pity to install 8.14 and just days later see that 8.20 is released.
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