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eturner
Joined: 07 Jan 2015 Posts: 4 Location: Charlotte NC
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:22 pm Post subject: Hostmonitor on Windows 2012 |
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Hello, does anybody know if Hostmonitor will work on a Windows 2012 Server? It monitors them great, but I want to know if I can sit the application on a 2012 Server. |
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KS-Soft Europe
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 2832
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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We tested HostMonitor on Windows Server 2012/R2, most functions work well, however there are some bugs in Windows API, mostly related to event logs and ICMP protocol.
Officially we do not support Windows Server 2012.
Please check system requirements at: http://www.ks-soft.net/hostmon.eng/index-sysreq.htm |
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Danonino
Joined: 05 Nov 2013 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Will you support it in the future? We will probably be rolling some Windows 2012 server environments this year. |
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menno
Joined: 21 May 2010 Posts: 157
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:46 am Post subject: |
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we run HM on windows server 2012R2 (std) and it works well
we did NOT have any issues (yet)
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KS-Soft
Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 12795 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Many customers already use Windows 2012 and we are using such systems for testing as well but we don't like this system because we cannot find solution for some problems.
E.g.
If application connects to WMI service with requiredArchitecture parameter = TRUE, this affects OTHER (3rd party) applications running on the system (when such applications make WMI requests). We see this issue on Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012.
While older systems (like Windows Server 2008) work correctly and connections made by HostMonitor do not make any problems for other applications
If system sends ICMP packets (ping) on regular basis, ping response time may degrade.
As we know such problem on Windows Server 2008 can be caused by Window Auto-Tuning feature. You may disable this option (netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled) and system will work correctly.
But we don't know how to fix similar problem on Windows Server 2012
Event Log API does not work reliable in multithreaded applications.
You may use "non-simultaneously test execution" folder level option but this option will delay tests if you have a lot of NT Event Log test items.
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AnneTheAgile
Joined: 23 Jan 2015 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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@KS-Soft, do you have Microsoft support tickets in to fix these issues? What is your long term plan?
I'm thinking the next Windows server version might not be that far away, so fixing Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 soon would be very helpful.
We own HostMonitor and are getting ready to buy another copy, but I had wished to put it on 2012.
thank you! |
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KS-Soft
Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 12795 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, we cannot fix Windows.
Lets see, may be Microsoft fix these problems in Windows 10
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Alex |
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AnneTheAgile
Joined: 23 Jan 2015 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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win10 has a previow already. Have you tried it?
I was specifically wondering if you personally filed support tickets with Microsoft. I know it ends up being with them, but they need to be alerted to the problems. |
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KS-Soft
Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 12795 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I was specifically wondering if you personally filed support tickets with Microsoft. |
Not recently. Long time ago we tried to work with Microsoft, e.g. pdh.dll worked very badly in multithreaded applications and it took years to fix the problems.
mgmtapi.dll caused memory leak, Microsoft fixed this problem in Windows 2000 but then bug came back in Windows Server 2003 (or Windows 2003 SP1).
So we just trying to rewrite our code without using some API, when possible...
Quote: | win10 has a previow already. Have you tried it? |
Yes, we are testing HostMonitor on Windows 10, so far I can say - it works.
If we find some problems, we will try to find solution in next version of HostMonitor (version 10 as well)
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Alex |
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AnneTheAgile
Joined: 23 Jan 2015 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:23 am Post subject: Advanced Host Monitor v10 schedule / fix? |
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hi! I notice that v9.8 beta says it supports windows server 2012, but that's only the VM version, and only as a target of monitoring, right? (We are putting Hostmonitor onto a VM.)
Is there any schedule for v10 which you said will add Windows Server 2010 support?
ty!
http://www.ks-soft.net/hostmon.eng/news.htm |
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KS-Soft Europe
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 2832
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I notice that v9.8 beta says it supports windows server 2012, but that's only the VM version |
No.
I assume you've read improvements related to Hyper-V test methods.
Quote: | and only as a target of monitoring, right? |
Not exactly.
You may check physical and virtual Windows 2012/R2 as target system.
HostMonitor (9.80 Beta, 9.90) will also work on Windows 2012/R2 system, however some Windows API works unstable on this OS.
We made improvements to workaround these problems, however we cannot fix Windows API. That's why we cannot recommend this OS for HostMonitor.
Please check for details at:
http://www.ks-soft.net/hostmon.eng/index-sysreq.htm |
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KS-Soft Europe
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 2832
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Is there any schedule for v10 |
Can't say exactly date, but it will be released soon.
Quote: | which you said will add Windows Server 2010 support? |
We did not say that.
Windows Server 2010? Do you mean Windows Server 2012?
As I said before, HostMonitor supports Windows Server 2012, however we do not recommend it for now. |
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KS-Soft
Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 12795 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean Windows 10?
We are testing it, looks a little better than Windows Server 2012
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Alex |
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